Too much people walk the earth if this happens.
Too much people walk the earth if this happens.
imagine going to prison for a lifetime
Immortality is hard to convey; we're still evolving but in theory it could be possible to live forever since doctors already play "God." Besides, imagination made lots of things.
With Nikc10's theory of changing bodies and exchanging memories to mere clones of yourself (or new bodies) could work to an extent. Yet there is lack of necessities and problematic waste due to the overgrowth of humanity, we will either die from scarcity or die drowning in our own trash- yes technology could perhaps change that, but water and land aren't renewable: We will overrun earth like maggots to the extent of annihilation, to the point where it will have to reset itself in order to start the cycle of life once again. Since energy can not be destroyed or made, it will take years to billions of centuries for us to adapt-to evolve-beyond ourselves on our broken home or another..that is if we survive our own suicidal destruction.
Of course death is inevitable therefore we must die and we will but as Nikc10 said:
Save memories and put back into another body= Immortality (to say the least) yet I question your theory:
-Who controls the memories that get put back into your blank soulless (replica) bodies?
-Who has the say for anyone to become immortal-is this not survival of the fittest?
-Where would the memories of billions be stored: Location, Technology?
Or perhaps, we shall just kill one another for immortality once it presents itself. Bomb countries to kill millions for your chance for a taste of eternal life.
Anyways, to sum this up: Living forever in hell is hell. Living forever in heaven is a bore so I'd personally would rather live for a limited time and die than live forever and see all there is to see no matter how much I would of loved to see it. 42.
Sorry for serious long post, I had more but..this is more then enuf.
Don't Let The Muggles Get You.
Pretty much what I'm thinking. We could get to the point where we can live for 999999999 years, provided we aren't in some terrible accident.Originally Posted by ProClifo
If people could just get a new body every time they die, would they remember their death?
....would murder be a big crime?
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Not trying to be a pessimist here but...
-We would eventually die because of extreme conditions anyways.
-Our brain wouldn't be able to store all the memories of several lifetimes. (It would work as fast as a 5 year old shitty and overfilled computer hard drive if not slower.)
-I'm not sure the rest of the body could survive that song. Your heart would give up at some point.
-You'd have to genetically change the human body to stop it form physically aging.
oh god akan would never write something like that
Or you could transfer your brain-info into a computer and get another memory card each life time :3
Don't Let The Muggles Get You.
50 lifetimes later you'd be looking for the right memory card. :3
You'd have access to them all at once, you'd just need extra storage space built into you for each lifetime otherwise you'd never be anle to remember everything.
It doesn't really matter because the human brain doesn't remember so much anyway. Can you honestly say you could remember 24 hours of lifetime? To me it seems like it's been condensed down and faded.
I think the real question is if/when we achieve this, shall it be put to use?
she's an angel for sure
kill me now kill me now kill me now
Most people I speak to say things along the lines of 'I wouldn't want to live forever anyway', so if most people don't even use it then it won't be so harmful to use it. I'd use it :3
To be honest, I don't think immortality potions or whatevs will come around till flying cars are invented.
Flying cars exist, they're just stupidly impractical and expensive.
helicopters
much better than any ol' flying car
she's an angel for sure
kill me now kill me now kill me now
Contradition.
I do not think humanity will ever achieve immortality, all processes that begin must also be able to end and will most probably end because of entropy, yet without these two rules life would never have come to be.
It is our very existance that spells our doom, be it 10 years or 10 millenia away.
The technology is impossible first of all.
Some people voiced criticism of your claim that all the water on earth would be the size of the western states.
This is indeed correct:
and I agree that immortal humans would deplete resources- of course if they were truly immortal no famine could kill them. x3
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Raar!
Oh, I never said it was a good idea, I'm honestly not sure it is. Though I question how much all this would really be relevant if we had the technology that would be required for it. If we can synthesize human bodies from nothing but raw materials, synthesizing things like food from trash should be pretty easy. It will get to the point where the only cost is really raw energy, and the sun can provide enough of that for any foreseeable activity on earth, and by that point, we may colonize other places anyway. It would probably change how people think too. People wouldn't mind taking a 100 year journey to another planet in another solar system if they will live forever.
To answer your questions though, here are some ideas:
1. Well, you could, or a computer you own. The best sources I can find show that the human brain capacity is something like 2.5 petabytes. In 50 years, if trends continue as they have, that will easily be able to fit onto a microSD sized card. As to who would make the new bodies and such, that's a problem. It could essentially give someone a HUGE amount of power.
2. Maybe it will be, or maybe we will also have the technology to provide resources for everyone by that point, and even get off of earth.
3. This is the easy one. As I've said before, as long as current trends continue, it should get to the point where the human brain would take up about as much percentage of your storage on your computer as a mp3 file does now. When you think that just 40 years ago the biggest HDDs for a desktop computer were around 1MB, and they've gotten 1 million times bigger since then, and should do the same in 50 years.
I never meant TRUE immortality, just what seems like it to humans today. We've made lifespan increases over the years, but when you look back, its not that significant. In the last few thousand years it has MAYBE doubled, and it doesn't seem to be going up very much right now. Allowing ourselves to suddenly live millions of years would basically be the same to us as immortality, as we would almost be unable to see the point where we would die. Further, entropy is less of a problem than you think. Even for the earth, just harnessing a small fraction of the suns power would let us doing amazing things without running into entropy limitations on the earth. (aren't you glad that most things aren't closed systems?)Contradition.
I do not think humanity will ever achieve immortality, all processes that begin must also be able to end and will most probably end because of entropy, yet without these two rules life would never have come to be.
It is our very existance that spells our doom, be it 10 years or 10 millenia away.
The technology is impossible first of all.
Some people voiced criticism of your claim that all the water on earth would be the size of the western states.
This is indeed correct:
and I agree that immortal humans would deplete resources- of course if they were truly immortal no famine could kill them. x3
As for the technology, its certainly not impossible. Currently, we can't do it, but as far as I know, there's nothing special about the human body or brain which would mean that we couldn't replicate them in the future. We've already stored copies of mouse brains, and we're working on being able to make synthetic organs, so I don't think its impossible.
There is a problem with your demonstration with the water, and that is volume. That sphere of water is HUGE compared to the earth, since its a sphere, which makes it look like there's a lot less water than there really is. Further, we run into a problem that energy can solve again. The problem with the earth isn't really resources, we have plenty of those, the problem is energy conversion. When we can efficiently get huge amounts of energy, whether from fusion or directly from the sun, things like that won't matter, as you can just react huge amounts of hyrdogen from the sun to get water. Finally, things like water don't have to disappear. Even now, we don't really "lose" water, as it stays on the earth. As long as we keep recycling, which should be easy if we can easily synthesize human bodies, we would have enough to last almost forever.
"We accept the love we think we deserve"
Life expectancy doubling is very impressive and life expectancy is still increasing rather steadily. I do appreciate it would be fiesable to live for much much longer should the correct technology come along, but that's where my speculations becomes meaningless.
The issue with resources is accessibility and purity. Pure water, which we can access is replenished slower in some parts of the world than it is used up, and with a vastly increased population that might appear as a result of huge life expectancy increases the pressure on such resources would demand huge geoengineering projects, although I think if technology progressed to a point where significant amounts of humans could live for many life times then perhaps the distribution of contraception would also improve. x3
Raar!
Nobody would want to have babies if they lived 500 years, by the end you'd have 80 kids D:
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