Child Discipline

[ASilva93]

I'm confused because I really don't see how those passages are at all against being left-handed.
There's no doubt the right hand has special meaning that the left doesn't have, but I fail to see where in any of those passages it implies writing with your left hand is any worse than writing with your right hand.
(Sorry if I'm missing the obvious...)

Correct me if I am wrong but "The people of Israel sent tribute by him to Eglon the king of Moab." means that they put him to death for being left handed. Also, the others imply being left handed is inferior and means that the person is foolish. I also believe this plays into why when people are being sworn in, they must put their right hand on the bible.

[Cirmentia]

Correct me if I am wrong but "The people of Israel sent tribute by him to Eglon the king of Moab." means that they put him to death for being left handed. Also, the others imply being left handed is inferior and means that the person is foolish. I also believe this plays into why when people are being sworn in, they must put their right hand on the bible.

Jesus was put to death for being a blasphemer, not for being left-handed. He claimed he was the Messiah and Son of God, which was blasphemy.

[Bean_Boy]

I don't agree with beating, but I said yes because a light, swift spank on the butt is almost similar to the clicking that people use to train animals. It's a statement of "that is not appropriate behavior" I was never hurt or in pain and I'm glad my parents did it.

Jesus was put to death for being a blasphemer, not for being left-handed. He claimed he was the Messiah and Son of God, which was blasphemy.

pretty irrelevant.

[ASilva93]

Jesus was put to death for being a blasphemer, not for being left-handed. He claimed he was the Messiah and Son of God, which was blasphemy.

I was talking about Ehud, not Jesus.

[Cirmentia]

I was talking about Ehud, not Jesus.

Sorry, I assumed you were replying to Suuper's post about Jesus possibly being left-handed. I didn't bother to read the quote.

[Bean_Boy]

Sorry, I assumed you were replying to Suuper's post about Jesus possibly being left-handed. I didn't bother to read the quote.

i4giveu

[ASilva93]

Anyways, back on topic.

The fact that lines have been drawn in several states in regards to beating children proves that it isn't going to be criminalized any time soon.

[Cirmentia]

Nearly 50% of first marriages end in divorce

Actually, approximately 70% of first marriages are successful. It is the people who continually marry and divorce who bring down the average rate successful marriages.

“Fifty percent of marriages end in divorce” is such a widely touted statistic that it has become a part of our national mindset. This mindset has lead to great pessimism and even fear for those who might be considering marriage and offers an excuse for divorce to those who have a marriage that is struggling – after all “everyone is getting divorced.” But is the statistic accurate?

The answer is: depends upon which marriages? Fifty percent of ALL marriages do end in divorce. But here’s the number we want you to remember and share:

More than 70 percent of all first marriages succeed. Seventy percent of all people who have ever been married are still married to the same person!

[ASilva93]

Actually, approximately 70% of first marriages are successful. It is the people who continually marry and divorce who bring down the average rate successful marriages.

This is completely off topic but 50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the Forest Institute of Professional Psychology in Springfield, Missouri.

On topic again, Time magazine reports that many parents believe that spanking is the most effective way to stop a child from misbehaving the quickest.

Also something I found relevent to both things is "Some of those who believe spanking a child is a necessary form of punishment may refer to the Bible for justification. There are several passages in the Bible, specifically in Hebrews and Proverbs, which refer to a rod being used to discipline a child."

[Cirmentia]

This is completely off topic but 50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the Forest Institute of Professional Psychology [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]in Springfield, Missouri.

I could make the same argument. Seventy percent of first marriages are successful, according to United Families International.

[ASilva93]

I could make the same argument. Seventy percent of first marriages are successful, according to United Families International.

You really fail to realize that this is not appropriate for this thread (which is about child discipline, not what are divorce percentages). My statistics are for the United States, yours are for the entire world. The vast majority of people here live in the United States.

Back on topic...

The NY Daily News reports that spanking kids makes them perform better in school and helps them become more successful by increased study.

The research, by Calvin College psychology professor Marjorie Gunnoe, found that kids smacked before age 6 grew up to be more successful and that there was not enough evidence to say that smacking harms most kids, according to the London Daily Mail.

[34attack]

You really fail to realize that this is not appropriate for this thread (which is about child discipline, not what are divorce percentages). My statistics are for the United States, yours are for the entire world. The vast majority of people here live in the United States.

Back on topic...

The NY Daily News reports that spanking kids makes them perform better in school and helps them become more successful by increased study.

I believe it's because kid gets scared because if the kid does not become successful he would get beaten again and again. Ir's just fear IMO.

[Cirmentia]

You really fail to realize that this is not appropriate for this thread (which is about child discipline, not what are divorce percentages). My statistics are for the United States, yours are for the entire world. The vast majority of people here live in the United States.

I think you are the one who is failing to realize that what we're discussing is a branch off of the main topic. What you're saying, essentially, is that any post which doesn't directly relate to the main topic, isn't appropriate for the thread. Not that it matters, unless a post is deleted for being off-topic, in which case you'd have to go and delete every other post on the entirety of JV that is slightly off-topic.

[chris0]

So... Asilva is saying that he's fine with his parents forcing his brothers to switch hands?

Blech.

Beating a child is taking the easy way out of parenting. I understand that sometimes, a parent just wants to slap a child because let's face it. Children are annoying as hell. But if you can't find a way to discipline a child other than with a belt, you're doing it wrong.

~chris0

[Cirmentia]

Beating a child is taking the easy way out of parenting. I understand that sometimes, a parent just wants to slap a child because let's face it. Children are annoying as hell. But if you can't find a way to discipline a child other than with a belt, you're doing it wrong.

Personally, I don't think it's a matter of taking an easy or hard way out.

[ProClifo]

Beating a child is taking the easy way out of parenting. I understand that sometimes, a parent just wants to slap a child because let's face it. Children are annoying as hell. But if you can't find a way to discipline a child other than with a belt, you're doing it wrong.

[ProClifo]

Why not just ground them instead? Find a better punishment than beating your child.

[Mr.Black.]

Child discipline is necessary if you don't want a spoilt brat. Spanking them is okay, as long as you don't go hardcore.

[PooZy]

Since when has the bible been a source of moral instruction?
The bible says to do loads of crazy stuff like kill gay people and those you suspect of witchcraft. If you took your morals from the bible then you'd end up doing loads of wacky stuff and getting people hurt.

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Since when has the bible been a source of moral instruction?
The bible says to do loads of crazy stuff like kill gay people and those you suspect of witchcraft. If you took your morals from the bible then you'd end up doing loads of wacky stuff and getting people hurt.

That's only applicable if you take them from the Bible read literally.