1. Originally Posted by aaaaaa123456789
Okay, that's partially true.

Here's the real deal.

Since Gen III, shininess is figured out like this:

Let S be the result of:
S = (hiword(personality value) xor loword(personality value) xor OTID xor OT secret ID) >> 3
Like that, you get a result between 0 and 8191, with all values being equally likely. If S = 0, the Pokemon is shiny.
As you can see, stats are unaffected by shininess.

But, here's what happens with Gen II:

In Gen II, shininess is determined by having a DV value that, in binary, looks like xx1x101010101010 (the x's can be anything). That also gives a 1 in 8192 chance. However, DVs ARE a factor in stats.
A shiny Pokemon can only have a DV total of 32, 36, 40, 41, 44, 45, 49 or 53. That gives an average levelup stat bonus of 0.85/level, with a standard deviation of 0.1269/level.
On the other hand, if you consider all possible values, DV totals range between 0 and 75 (1 and 74 being the only impossible values), having an average levelup stat bonus of 0.75/level with a standard deviation of 0.2133/level.

As you can see, shinies in Gen II have slightly greater stats in average, but less variance (and thus lower potential maximum).
My brain hurts...

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3. Ditto~.

Pure awesomesauce.

4. Originally Posted by aaaaaa123456789
Okay, that's partially true.

Here's the real deal.

Since Gen III, shininess is figured out like this:

Let S be the result of:
S = (hiword(personality value) xor loword(personality value) xor OTID xor OT secret ID) >> 3
Like that, you get a result between 0 and 8191, with all values being equally likely. If S = 0, the Pokemon is shiny.
As you can see, stats are unaffected by shininess.

But, here's what happens with Gen II:

In Gen II, shininess is determined by having a DV value that, in binary, looks like xx1x101010101010 (the x's can be anything). That also gives a 1 in 8192 chance. However, DVs ARE a factor in stats.
A shiny Pokemon can only have a DV total of 32, 36, 40, 41, 44, 45, 49 or 53. That gives an average levelup stat bonus of 0.85/level, with a standard deviation of 0.1269/level.
On the other hand, if you consider all possible values, DV totals range between 0 and 75 (1 and 74 being the only impossible values), having an average levelup stat bonus of 0.75/level with a standard deviation of 0.2133/level.

As you can see, shinies in Gen II have slightly greater stats in average, but less variance (and thus lower potential maximum).
Never knew all that. Thanks for the info.

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6. What if you had a shiny pokemon with pokerus? Now that would be special.

7. Originally Posted by Airock
What if you had a shiny pokemon with pokerus? Now that would be special.
lol pokeRUS is super easy to get

8. Regarding all the talk about pokérus, here's what it is for unknowing members:

Originally Posted by Evan J
Pokérus (a portmanteau of Pokémon and virus) is a rare virus introduced in Pokémon Gold and Silver. It is extremely infectious in nature, being able to spread between Pokémon of different species. The only cure for Pokérus is to wait for a period of 24 hours. Infected Pokémon can be traded to Pokémon Red and Blue, but because Pokérus does not exist in these games, it cannot be contracted or spread when traded. However, the effects of the Pokérus are still applied. Similarly, a Pokémon with the Pokérus cannot be cured while in these two games. In Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Pokérus is displayed as a pink rectangle stating Pokérus in the Summary window.

Despite being a virus, Pokérus is beneficial to its hosts. Pokérus accelerates the hidden statistical development of Pokémon (that is, its training) by making it gain effort values at twice the speed. This effect is cumulative with the Macho Brace, and an infected Pokémon with such an item effectively trains at four times its normal rate. In the third generation games, where training is capped to a maximum, the Pokérus does not raise this maximum limit. The overall effect on a Pokémon's strength is thus negligible, as a Pokémon can be fully trained with or without Pokérus. It is, however, easier to fully develop a Pokémon's skills with Pokérus because it reduces the number of battles needed to fully train the Pokémon.

Pokérus is mainly contracted from battles; there is a 2 in 65,535 chance of contracting Pokérus in battle. If a Pokémon in the active party has Pokérus, in each round of battle there is a 1 in 2 chance (1 in 3 in the third generation) that an adjacent Pokémon on the team will contract the Pokérus. The active Pokémon can also contract Pokérus in this manner if the first "bench member" has the Pokérus.

Pokérus is cured after 24 hours on the party from the time of infection; Pokémon cannot be cured of Pokérus if left in a PC box or are traded to Pokémon Stadium 2 or Pokémon Box. It also appears that pokerus will not stop being contagius even after twenty-four hours in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Once Pokérus' effects end, the host develops an immunity to it and pokerus can no longer be transmitted. However, the accelerated stat growth remains, the Pokémon only loses the ability to spread it.

Pokérus was mentioned in the Pokemon Chronicles episode Oaknapped as a lifeform that Team Rocket was looking for to accelerate their evolution process.

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10. Red Gyarados is a shiny, and it's great that people who aren't that lucky still have the chance to catch at least one shiny.

11. Shiney Torchic, Pokemon Ruby. At first had no idea what shiney pokeman were and when i got the torchis i was like WTF IS THIS?!

12. I found a golden Magikarp in Vermilion City on my Leaf green, I got so excited and happy

13. Unown Fire Red (The letter was V, I found it in the temple thingies on one of the islands)

14. I had a shiney Gengar once in pokemon pearl. I traded a Dialga for him

15. am i the only one that thinks shiny pokemon are ugly and pointless? i think Red Gyarados was the only remotely good looking one.

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17. Once I found a shiny Rattata on route 1 in FireRed. Too bad it was before i got the damn pokédex. >.>

18. Originally Posted by Kai
Once I found a shiny Rattata on route 1 in FireRed. Too bad it was before i got the damn pokédex. >.>
Wow that really sucks...

19. A shiny whismur in Emerald and a shiny caterpie in crystal (bug catching contest)
Then of course there is the Red Gyarados that I got in both crystal games and HG

20. Raticate

21. I got a shiny HO-OH on HeartGold.

22. Bellsprout in Red or Blue.

23. my first shiny pokemon was a ditto in diamond. but i got him with an action replay.

24. Non-event shiny Pichu NEED I SAY MORE?!

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