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    Quote Originally Posted by aaaaaa123456789 View Post
    Actually, "they are being hated by", "they are hating on", and "they are being hateful with" are correct -- but the one you used, isn't. It's not just garbled, it's gramatically incorrect.
    "They're being hated on" is incorrect.
    You wouldn't say "I'm being hated on" for example because "Hated" has an "ed" verb ending.
    You would say "They're hating him", "ed" is just.. Beyond incorrect.

    "They're being hateful with" is also wrong, "They're being hateful towards" works, in the situation you were trying to imply, if I were to say "They're being hateful with Jerry about Tom now", it'd be correct, but still a terrible way to organise that sentence.

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    I agree with lightnin here, but I'm not sure if the majority agree with us. If they do 'hating on' shall be added to the list.

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    "I'm being hated on", sounds more like slang to me.
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    Good luck to you, seriously, you're going to need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightnin!!! View Post
    "They're being hated on" is incorrect.
    You wouldn't say "I'm being hated on" for example because "Hated" has an "ed" verb ending.
    You would say "They're hating him", "ed" is just.. Beyond incorrect.

    "They're being hateful with" is also wrong, "They're being hateful towards" works, in the situation you were trying to imply, if I were to say "They're being hateful with Jerry about Tom now", it'd be correct, but still a terrible way to organise that sentence.

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    I agree that the correct word was "towards".

    As for the other case... "to hate on" is a phrase, and a valid one. Since the verb in it is "to hate", then using any tense of it would be correct -- like "hate on", "hating on", or "have hated on".
    What I used, was the passive voice of that. The passive voice of "to hate" is "to be hated", and the verb that changes tenses (in that and in every passive voice form) is "to be". So, "to be" becomes "being", where the participle ("hated") remains there, producing "being hated on".

    You probably mistook "hated" for a past tense verb, when it's just a past participle in that context -- the one that's used for passive voices. Just like "I'm writing this post" is correct, "this post is being written by me" also is -- and in the latter, "being written" is the verb, which is a passive voice form of "to write". Just like I used "being hated" in my other example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
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    Your crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    'Octopi,' -No; you shouldn't add a latin suffix to a greek word. The correct plural is actually 'octopuses', just the word you've probably criticised people for using.
    Octopi... Reminds me of Octopee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Black. View Post
    Octopi... Reminds me of Octopee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    Here is a thread for the Grammar-nazi's of JV.
    I'm sure you've all noticed that a lot of people make every-day statements, but insert errors that sometimes actually reverse the meaning of the saying.

    This thread lists all of those regular mistakes and is intended as a resource to be quoted to people who continually make said mistakes.

    Please suggest irritating every-day mistakes and they will be added to the list below.

    The list:

    'I was generally surprised,' -No you weren't; you were genuinely surprised.

    'I could care less,' -No you couldn't; you couldn't care less.

    'Your forgetting that,' -No they aren't; it's 'you're forgetting that'.

    'Its mine,' -No; you mean 'It's mine,'

    'They were under it's control,' -No; they were under its control.

    'Octopi,' -No; you shouldn't add a latin suffix to a greek word. The correct plural is actually 'octopuses', just the word you've probably criticised people for using.

    'I was literally on fire!' -No; 'literally' means that you're not joking, that you're telling the exact truth, that you actually were on fire.
    so your stamping out what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaaaaa123456789 View Post
    I agree that the correct word was "towards".

    As for the other case... "to hate on" is a phrase, and a valid one. Since the verb in it is "to hate", then using any tense of it would be correct -- like "hate on", "hating on", or "have hated on".
    What I used, was the passive voice of that. The passive voice of "to hate" is "to be hated", and the verb that changes tenses (in that and in every passive voice form) is "to be". So, "to be" becomes "being", where the participle ("hated") remains there, producing "being hated on".

    You probably mistook "hated" for a past tense verb, when it's just a past participle in that context -- the one that's used for passive voices. Just like "I'm writing this post" is correct, "this post is being written by me" also is -- and in the latter, "being written" is the verb, which is a passive voice form of "to write". Just like I used "being hated" in my other example.
    "Hate on" is still incorrect, if you were to say "I'm starting to hate on Winifred" I could slap you across the face, and you know why?
    Because the sentence works without the "on", "I'm starting to hate Winifred".
    And that works for all else you've listed, "I've hated Winifred before", "I'm hating Winifred right now", "I hate Winifred" or "I'm expressing hate towards Winifred", etc.

    Actually I tried to see it in both tenses, "hated" however suggests a past tense.
    "I hated him once, but now we're understanding of each other", "I hated the way he behaved yesterday around my pet swan", "He hated me because I licked his Vintage Kerplunk Set", however you look at it, even in the incorrect "He hated on me" sense, "hated" is still past tense.
    And "writing" and "written" were horrible examples, "written" is incorrect, you would say instead "I wrote this post", not "The post is being written by", "written" has a rather confusing tense, I think it fits past tense more, "My essay was handwritten, not typed", past tense, everyone is happy.

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    I could care less is a saying.... it's not a typo or something..... correcting that is like correcting 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mfdοm View Post
    "I'm being hated on", sounds more like slang to me.
    It is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Bru View Post
    I could care less is a saying.... it's not a typo or something..... correcting that is like correcting 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'...
    No it's not; it's a corruption of the saying 'I couldn't care less,'. Here in england everyone says 'I couldn't care less,', but I noticed online that americans often say 'I could care less,' instead, which reverses the meaning of their statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightnin!!! View Post
    Actually I tried to see it in both tenses, "hated" however suggests a past tense.
    "I hated him once, but now we're understanding of each other", "I hated the way he behaved yesterday around my pet swan", "He hated me because I licked his Vintage Kerplunk Set", however you look at it, even in the incorrect "He hated on me" sense, "hated" is still past tense.
    And "writing" and "written" were horrible examples, "written" is incorrect, you would say instead "I wrote this post", not "The post is being written by", "written" has a rather confusing tense, I think it fits past tense more, "My essay was handwritten, not typed", past tense, everyone is happy.
    Once again, you're confusing past tenses with past participles -- a confusion that comes from English itself, since, for the most part, it uses the same words for both. "I opened the door" is simple past. "I have opened the door 5 times today" is present perfect, and, in that context, "opened" is a past participle -- even though it's the same exact word. That's why you use "went", but you use "have gone" (not "have went"): because they are different tenses.
    The case you used, "was handwritten", isn't even a perfect tense: it's passive voice. You handwrote the essay (simple past, active voice), the essay was handwritten by you (simple past, passive voice). However, that applies to any case, not just past forms. Note how the verb that is in past tense is the verb to be in your example ("was handwritten"), with a past participle added onto it: that's how you build passive voice forms. But you can build passive voice forms for any tense.
    I am writing this post (present continuous ("am writing"), active voice), this post is being written by me (present continuous ("is being"), passive voice). Convoluted example? Certainly, but on purpose. Incorrect? No.

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