View Poll Results: does god exist

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  • yes

    390 46.59%
  • maybe im not sure but i guess it could be real

    96 11.47%
  • no

    170 20.31%
  • no but if yes this god is a jerk

    75 8.96%
  • yes but i do wonder sometimes if its true

    106 12.66%

Thread: Does god exist?

  1. #12181
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    To be blunt karma, even if you disproved all mainstream science you would not prove your god must exist.

    Can you prove your God exists to us?
    And it has to be physical evidence that God exists. On the other side, there are so many examples that support evolution and that can be seen within your lifetime.

    Mutations can be of the following:
    Good, which are like about 1% of the mutations
    Harmless
    or Bad

    Before you think that sickle cell is a bad mutation, it actually is a good mutation near African waters since there are mosquitoes there. Mosquitoes carry malaria, and having sickle cell prevents malaria from taking over the person. Example of natural selection.

  2. #12182


    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    To be blunt karma, even if you disproved all mainstream science you would not prove your god must exist.

    Can you prove your God exists to us?
    Example: A brachiosaurus neck is 30 feets long but its nostral was the size of a horse. Did they sufficate? WHen they lived (with man) there was much more trees and plants. so they breathed better. Only God would remember that. He made the exact amount of plants for a brachiosaurus to breathe, But after the flood all plants were destoryed. So it was a lot let oxygen. so the brachiosaurus died. Other dinosuars were hunted down dinosuars became exsict

  3. #12183
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post




    Example: A brachiosaurus neck is 30 feets long but its nostral was the size of a horse. Did they sufficate? WHen they lived (with man) there was much more trees and plants. so they breathed better. Only God would remember that. He made the exact amount of plants for a brachiosaurus to breathe, But after the flood all plants were destoryed. So it was a lot let oxygen. so the brachiosaurus died. Other dinosuars were hunted down dinosuars became exsict
    Biggest joke ever. Flood? You kiddin me? Flood? You talking about flood? no re

  4. #12184
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post




    Example: A brachiosaurus neck is 30 feets long but its nostral was the size of a horse. Did they sufficate? WHen they lived (with man) there was much more trees and plants. so they breathed better. Only God would remember that. He made the exact amount of plants for a brachiosaurus to breathe, But after the flood all plants were destoryed. So it was a lot let oxygen. so the brachiosaurus died. Other dinosuars were hunted down dinosuars became exsict
    Brachiosaurus didn't live alongside man, they are from different geological aeons which is why human fossils are never found alongside dinosaur fossils, karma.

    Raar!

  5. #12185
    1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

    Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:

    The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

    The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

    And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.4

    Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

    It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

    Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that various chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

    Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

    Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

    Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

    Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

    The human brain...simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information. Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the texture of your keyboard. Your brain holds and processes all your emotions, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands.

    The human brain processes more than a million messages a second.7 Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world. The brain functions differently than other organs. There is an intelligence to it, the ability to reason, to produce feelings, to dream and plan, to take action, and relate to other people.

    The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

    2. Does God exist? The universe had a start - what caused it?

    Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

    Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."9

    Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10

    The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.

    3. Does God exist? The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?

    Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.

    How is it that we can identify laws of nature that never change? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?

    "The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."11

    Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle."12

    4. Does God exist? The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.

    All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!

    Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.13

    Why is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.

    Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.

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  7. #12186
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

    Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:

    The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

    The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

    And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.4

    Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

    It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

    Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that various chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

    Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

    Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

    Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

    Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

    The human brain...simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information. Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the texture of your keyboard. Your brain holds and processes all your emotions, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands.

    The human brain processes more than a million messages a second.7 Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world. The brain functions differently than other organs. There is an intelligence to it, the ability to reason, to produce feelings, to dream and plan, to take action, and relate to other people.

    The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

    2. Does God exist? The universe had a start - what caused it?

    Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

    Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."9

    Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10

    The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.

    3. Does God exist? The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?

    Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.

    How is it that we can identify laws of nature that never change? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?

    "The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."11

    Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle."12

    4. Does God exist? The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.

    All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!

    Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.13

    Why is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.

    Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.

    nice copy paste


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  9. #12187
    Quote Originally Posted by PooZy View Post
    nice copy paste


    I don't think ur srs anymore
    srs?

    I didnt feel life giving the reasons mostly cuase this is getting boring so I just had internet do it for me. XD

    btw you are not one to talk.

  10. #12188
    Is it not possible that our bodies have adapted to fit our environment, rather than our environmet and us being specifically designed by an omniscient god for us to live in?

    This would probably explain earthquakes tsunamis, solar storms, hurricanes and the like, whereas they were traditionally thought of as the 'wrath of God'. x3

    Karma, I've seen these arguments a hundred imes before [seriously browse this thread, people have posted that paragraph word for word, I'm sure you're actually pasting it from a website], they're essentially watch maker arguments, and the watch-maker argument never worked in the first place so why do you expect reiterations of it to work?

    Raar!

  11. #12189
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    Is it not possible that our bodies have adapted to fit our environment, rather than our environmet and us being specifically designed by an omniscient god for us to live in?

    This would probably explain earthquakes tsunamis, solar storms, hurricanes and the like, whereas they were traditionally thought of as the 'wrath of God'. x3

    Karma, I've seen these arguments a hundred imes before [seriously browse this thread, people have posted that paragraph word for word, I'm sure you're actually pasting it from a website], they're essentially watch maker arguments, and the watch-maker argument never worked in the first place so why do you expect reiterations of it to work?
    our bodies do adapt sorta. When we move to some place hot we get used to the heat. I am kinda lazy XD. So I did this. But you guiys are no one to talk. Last time we debated you did the same thing. This proves god exsists. You denying it means you are willingly Ignorents (dumb on perpose) you dont want to believe it. We have earthquakes and tsunamis cuase thats god's Judgement.

  12. #12190
    My brain is hurting reading these >.>

  13. #12191
    Quote Originally Posted by Explode! View Post
    My brain is hurting reading these >.>
    probally cuase its true XD.

  14. #12192
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    our bodies do adapt sorta. When we move to some place hot we get used to the heat. I am kinda lazy XD. So I did this. But you guiys are no one to talk. Last time we debated you did the same thing. This proves god exsists. You denying it means you are willingly Ignorents (dumb on perpose) you dont want to believe it. We have earthquakes and tsunamis cuase thats god's Judgement.
    I don't copy pasta big websites, I note sources to show where I got information from.

    We have earthquakes and tsunamis because the earth's mantle is in constant convection, which causes tortion and dissonance between tectonic plates on the crust. The pent up ellastic energy in the plates is released when these plates move, causing vibrations.
    This is why earthquakes almost always happen near fault lines between opposing tectonic plates, not because of Gawd.

    Saying 'the universe is amazing therefore it must have been designed by an amazing creator' is a claim, not a proof.

    Raar!

  15. #12193
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    I don't copy pasta big websites, I note sources to show where I got information from.

    We have earthquakes and tsunamis because the earth's mantle is in constant convection, which causes tortion and dissonance between tectonic plates on the crust. The pent up ellastic energy in the plates is released when these plates move, causing vibrations.
    This is why earthquakes almost always happen near fault lines between opposing tectonic plates, not because of Gawd.

    Saying 'the universe is amazing therefore it must have been designed by an amazing creator' is a claim, not a proof.
    god allows that to happen. The universe is complex which means it has to be created by a designer. you think we got here by evolving. If you go back to the start of the evolution theory it says we started from a big bang that no one know where it came from. Then it blew up and made a super complex world. How could a dot make the size of the eary just right for us to live. and could it make the sun just the right size from us melting. How could it make a gene code so complex?

  16. #12194
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    god allows that to happen. The universe is complex which means it has to be created by a designer. you think we got here by evolving. If you go back to the start of the evolution theory it says we started from a big bang that no one know where it came from. Then it blew up and made a super complex world. How could a dot make the size of the eary just right for us to live. and could it make the sun just the right size from us melting. How could it make a gene code so complex?
    Complex things don't necessitate a designer.

    Oh goodnes, you really don't have a clue about evolution or big bang do you? Evolution describes how life changes over time. Big bang describes the origin of our universe.

    Just how could the big bang's maelstroem of radiation and matter make the world we live in today? Because look out into the sky, there are billions of stars with billions of worlds. The probability of one world being conducive to the formation of living things seems fair.

    Raar!

  17. #12195
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    Complex things don't necessitate a designer.

    Oh goodnes, you really don't have a clue about evolution or big bang do you? Evolution describes how life changes over time. Big bang describes the origin of our universe.

    Just how could the big bang's maelstroem of radiation and matter make the world we live in today? Because look out into the sky, there are billions of stars with billions of worlds. The probability of one world being conducive to the formation of living things seems fair.
    Big bang tells how the universe was made for an evolutionists point of view.
    I got to go. I want to play pr2 cuase im getting bored. I'll talk later.

  18. #12196
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    Big bang tells how the universe was made for an evolutionists point of view.
    I got to go. I want to play pr2 cuase im getting bored. I'll talk later.
    Oh gosh ._. really karma, really.

    The big bang isn't about fitting the views of bilogists, the theory was sculpted by physicists afterall.

    Raar!

  19. #12197
    Quote Originally Posted by Karma View Post
    Big bang tells how the universe was made for an evolutionists point of view.
    I got to go. I want to play pr2 cuase im getting bored. I'll talk later.
    Big bang was discovered by physicists not biologists and anyway a lot of christians believe the big bang
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  20. #12198
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    Oh gosh ._. really karma, really.

    The big bang isn't about fitting the views of bilogists, the theory was sculpted by physicists afterall.
    He is either a real bible thumper believer or he's just trollin the crap out of u

  21. #12199
    Why bump this?

    All you guys are gonna do is argue. We all have the right to believe what we want. If you don't move to America. END OF STORY

  22. #12200


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