View Poll Results: does god exist

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  • yes

    385 46.78%
  • maybe im not sure but i guess it could be real

    94 11.42%
  • no

    167 20.29%
  • no but if yes this god is a jerk

    72 8.75%
  • yes but i do wonder sometimes if its true

    105 12.76%

Thread: Does god exist?

  1. #12041
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity? View Post
    What's really the point in being an athiest? Why spread your depressing beliefs that everything is so pointless? Filling kids heads up with the idea that there's a happy ending is best for everybody. Ever heard of lying for the right reasons?

    I'd be overjoyed if the entire world had no idea that death might not be a cozy relaxing flight to a heaven. I would give anything to reset my mind so I couldn't feel the pain, and if some of you are right, that nothing happens and you're just dead, then it won't matter, but at least the ride down won't be so depressing.

    I don't believe in god, but I'm not so ignorant to believe that anything I say is true, or ignorant enough to debate something that will never reach a conclusion.

    Why do athiests want others to agree with them so much? Once you convince them, whats really the point?
    What's the point in being an atheist?
    The following consist some of the reasons:
    -You don't think there is suitable evidence for a deity
    -You actively dislike the idea of deities
    -You haven't herd of or care about deities
    -Religious reasons [no seriously there are atheistic religions like buddhism]

    Does atheism necessitate the belief that reality is depressing and pointless? Nope.
    Is lying to people to save their feelings a good practice? No, probably not especially because different sets of lies compete with one another or even compete with real facts, a mantra of ignorance further denies a person's choice of beliefs and the freedom of information.

    Why do some atheists want to persuade others that there are no gods?
    -Epistemological reason- just because an idea is nice doesn't mean it is true, defencible or special
    -Some people pressure atheists to share their belief in a certain god, and debate is triggered as defence
    -Some religionists' behavior, in the name of their gods, appears mad to the non religious- such as holy wars and ceremonial mutilation of children [includes male and female circumcision, facial tattooing, involuntary body piercing, denying a child medicine, removing teeth etc]
    -The defence of real and established facts which are contrary to religious dogma.

    TLDR This is your mortality, it is a fact of life, deal with it

    Raar!

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  3. #12042
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity? View Post
    What's really the point in being an athiest? Why spread your depressing beliefs that everything is so pointless? Filling kids heads up with the idea that there's a happy ending is best for everybody. Ever heard of lying for the right reasons?

    I'd be overjoyed if the entire world had no idea that death might not be a cozy relaxing flight to a heaven. I would give anything to reset my mind so I couldn't feel the pain, and if some of you are right, that nothing happens and you're just dead, then it won't matter, but at least the ride down won't be so depressing.

    I don't believe in god, but I'm not so ignorant to believe that anything I say is true, or ignorant enough to debate something that will never reach a conclusion.

    Why do athiests want others to agree with them so much? Once you convince them, whats really the point?
    Idk I am not really bothered about there being no heaven, I'm happier without religion.

  4. #12043
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity? View Post
    What's really the point in being an athiest? Why spread your depressing beliefs that everything is so pointless? Filling kids heads up with the idea that there's a happy ending is best for everybody. Ever heard of lying for the right reasons?

    I'd be overjoyed if the entire world had no idea that death might not be a cozy relaxing flight to a heaven. I would give anything to reset my mind so I couldn't feel the pain, and if some of you are right, that nothing happens and you're just dead, then it won't matter, but at least the ride down won't be so depressing.

    I don't believe in god, but I'm not so ignorant to believe that anything I say is true, or ignorant enough to debate something that will never reach a conclusion.

    Why do athiests want others to agree with them so much? Once you convince them, whats really the point?
    Ok I will try to make this fairly short.

    If you believe atheism is about depression then you are awfully wrong. It's simply the lack of belief in a deity.
    If you need a god and an afterlife to make the as far as known, only life you have, worth living I pity you. What a waste of something so precious.

    So what you are saying is that lies are more important then logic and that children can only be happy if they know there is an afterlife? I'm awfully happy to be living my only life instead of wasting it waiting for another.

    I don't mind others not agreeing with me. May I then ask you why Christians wish that atheists burn in hell for not thinking the same way as they do?

    Furthermore I honestly could give less ****s about what people believe. The only things that bothers me is parents telling their children what to believe, when people use religion as a tool of power and when it gets involved into politics.

    Example:
    As far as I know.
    An atheist mom/dad would tell his/her child they do not believe in a god or a higher power while a religious mom/dad would tell their child that there is a god.

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  6. #12044
    The perception of an idea's emotional qualities don't affect its epistemological qualities [unless the idea is inherently relevant to emotion]

    Wasn't that exactly the point of the video I posted?

    Raar!

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  8. #12045
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    The perception of an idea's emotional qualities don't affect its epistemological qualities [unless the idea is inherently relevant to emotion]

    Wasn't that exactly the point of the video I posted?
    Haven't watched it yet because I'm at my friends house and he doesn't want me to turn off the music.

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  10. #12046
    God existz cuz bible sed so

  11. #12047
    Quote Originally Posted by sychocut View Post
    God existz cuz bible sed so
    Omg proof is wrong because a 2000 year old book said so.

  12. #12048
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Twisted View Post
    Omg proof is wrong because a 2000 year old book said so.
    no u just believ dat nothin exploded ok

  13. #12049
    Quote Originally Posted by sychocut View Post
    no u just believ dat nothin exploded ok
    ya da bibl it tru cuz god sed so and god nevr lyies cuz the bible sed so!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  14. #12050
    but leik, god dusnt exist becuz leik, thar isnt a man in tha cloudz and shiz

  15. #12051
    Your grammar is making this look like VG.

  16. #12052
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Twisted View Post
    Your grammar is making this look like VG.
    wat? no, this is hwo al threds r ok thy r ment to b tiped lik dis ok bt still god exsit

  17. #12053
    Can I say something?
    God exists.
    Look at thousands of miracles that happened everywhere.
    Also, I think that everyone should belive in something.
    Thanks.
    So I am in my Little Heaven
    So I am in my Little Cursed Hell
    So I live on my Little Own Land
    Why am I falling...?

  18. #12054
    Quote Originally Posted by Different View Post
    Can I say something?
    God exists.
    Look at thousands of miracles that happened everywhere.
    Also, I think that everyone should belive in something.
    Thanks.
    Not sure if sarcasm?

    Miracles are claimed in the name of many different religions, but they all have one thing in common. No miracle, ever to have happened, is independantly verifiable or scientifically official, not one.

    Raar!

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  20. #12055
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    Not sure if sarcasm?

    Miracles are claimed in the name of many different religions, but they all have one thing in common. No miracle, ever to have happened, is independantly verifiable or scientifically official, not one.
    No, not a sarcasm.
    I'm a catholic.
    Okay, maybe every religion has miracles. That's why everyone belives in God/Gods/gods.
    Everyone should belive in something - and everyone belives in something.
    Also, if everyone would belive in one God, then:
    No religious wars.
    No hating.
    No "Does God Exists?" thread.
    Well, let me think. Maybe I'll (finally) say something smart in this thread.
    So I am in my Little Heaven
    So I am in my Little Cursed Hell
    So I live on my Little Own Land
    Why am I falling...?

  21. #12056
    Quote Originally Posted by Different View Post
    No, not a sarcasm.
    I'm a catholic.
    Okay, maybe every religion has miracles. That's why everyone belives in God/Gods/gods.
    Everyone should belive in something - and everyone belives in something.
    Also, if everyone would belive in one God, then:
    No religious wars.
    No hating.
    No "Does God Exists?" thread.
    Well, let me think. Maybe I'll (finally) say something smart in this thread.
    If every religion has miracles, but these religions are contradictorary, this means that miracles aren't a valid grounds to substantiate belief in gods. Even if there was only one religion, because miracles have never been independantly verified they still would not substantiate a valid proof of gods, and even if miracles were independantly verified they still wouldn't show there was definitely one specific god- even religions without gods sometimes have miracles, like the impregnation dream of the Buddha's conception in Lumbini.

    Not everyone is required to believe in something, most of us do, since we believe we actually exist, but putting this asside belief in the supernatural or spiritual isn't a necessity for a person to be whole or peaceful with their lot, and aspiration to monoculture is largely the cause of war hate and dissonance, not the solution.

    Raar!

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  23. #12057
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    If every religion has miracles, but these religions are contradictorary, this means that miracles aren't a valid grounds to substantiate belief in gods. Even if there was only one religion, because miracles have never been independantly verified they still would not substantiate a valid proof of gods, and even if miracles were independantly verified they still wouldn't show there was definitely one specific god- even religions without gods sometimes have miracles, like the impregnation dream of the Buddha's conception in Lumbini.

    Not everyone is required to believe in something, most of us do, since we believe we actually exist, but putting this asside belief in the supernatural or spiritual isn't a necessity for a person to be whole or peaceful with their lot, and aspiration to monoculture is largely the cause of war hate and dissonance, not the solution.
    At the first part: So miracles =/= proof. Okay.
    But look around. All of those things that are around You. They exists. If they're exists, so someone created them. If someone created them, so there was a human with an idea. If there was idea, so it came from His brain. If He has a brain, so probably there's someone smarter than Him. And it will go to the smartest human on Earth. But what if there's someone smarter, that can do everything. That sent His Son to the Earth. That loves Us.
    When I'm now looking at this, I see that I haven't proved anything. It was just a kind of flow.

    At second part: But imagine a world without any Gods, any higher beings. No churches, no praying. This would totally... suck! When I'm thinking about this, I can see only boring things. Maybe Church is boring for someone ("Sitting and singing" - My friend), but not for me. I find this enjoyable. It's like a conversation.

    Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surprised_by_Joy
    So I am in my Little Heaven
    So I am in my Little Cursed Hell
    So I live on my Little Own Land
    Why am I falling...?

  24. #12058
    Quote Originally Posted by Different View Post
    At the first part: So miracles =/= proof. Okay.
    But look around. All of those things that are around You. They exists. If they're exists, so someone created them. If someone created them, so there was a human with an idea. If there was idea, so it came from His brain. If He has a brain, so probably there's someone smarter than Him. And it will go to the smartest human on Earth. But what if there's someone smarter, that can do everything. That sent His Son to the Earth. That loves Us.
    When I'm now looking at this, I see that I haven't proved anything. It was just a kind of flow.

    At second part: But imagine a world without any Gods, any higher beings. No churches, no praying. This would totally... suck! When I'm thinking about this, I can see only boring things. Maybe Church is boring for someone ("Sitting and singing" - My friend), but not for me. I find this enjoyable. It's like a conversation.

    Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surprised_by_Joy
    Imagine a world without any gods, it would be identical to the one we live in

    And anyway, the existence of matter doesn't qualify an intelligent creator. You're jumping to conclusions with that one.

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  26. #12059
    Yeah God exists. He made this universe. Big Bang is a lie satan told u through scientists.
    He made you, too. He loves you so much that his son died for you. Saying "he is a jerk" or "i hate him" or "he is a lie" is a slap in the face to the Creator. But he still loves us regardless.
    Also, evolution, global warming, "billions of yrs. ago" is all a lie satan told u through scientists.
    Last edited by ClassyElephant_; 23rd July 2012 at 12:39 PM.

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