True that CxOriginally Posted by Rammjet
yes
maybe im not sure but i guess it could be real
no
no but if yes this god is a jerk
yes but i do wonder sometimes if its true
True that Cx
Praying to God doesn’t give you anything you want. The Bible states that God gives you what you need; not what you want. Praying to God to heal patients will not necessarily heal them. Anyway, why would you even care about these patients if they are nothing more then a process of evolution?
Further, why do you expect God to answer your prayers if you don't even believe in God much less expect him to answer your prayers?
The statement I’m getting at here is that God is not some cosmic vending machine that gives you whatever you want as long as you worship him. If God really was a vending machine, then he wouldn’t be God. He would be ‘forced’ to give you whatever you want as long as you give him tithes or something. God is not subject to your wishes; just because you want something doesn’t mean you’ll get it. God gives you what you need, not what you want.
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If God knows exactly what you need etc etc then praying to God would be a complete waste of time and if nothing else an Insult to god's intelligence, so religious people must be doing something wrong if they think praying is worth while.
In any case evolution doesn't tell people to care for patients, but that doesn't mean people who believe in evolution don't care.
People have their own reasons for caring, the theory of evolution doesn't have anything to do with it (although caring for the sick is actually beneficial for the survival of the human race and therefore the theory of evolution does actually support the notion of caring for patients, so the argument is invalid anyway).
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Lots of people don't need food or health then apprantly. x3
People who recognise evolution don't disregard life as worthless...I'm really not sure where you got that idea from, unless you think every biologist who isn't registered on AIG is a eugenicist.
When people appeal for health, survival or an end to their suffering, they're not treating their various deities like 'cosmic vending machines,', they're appealing in ernest desparity, and it's incredibly psychopathic to liken asking for a child to survive to vending a coke- and even weirder to suggest a parent needs their child to die from leukhaemia.
These assertions are primitive and not even possible to prove, go back to the drawing board.
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Blackie believes in a deity which answers prayers, but thinks that expecting prayers for dying children or ill partners to be answerd is an abuse of people's relationship with this deity...
...so, if it's not an end to world hunger, disease and war, what do you pray for Blackie?
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Think about this: if everyone in the world died, and new humans were created with no thoughts about previous religions, then would they end up with the same thoughts about gods as we do right now? Now think about this: As the humans continued on their path to learn about the world around them, they will soon build up their scientific knowledge to what we know right now.
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But if there is a god, who revealed himself to one person, wouldn't he do it again? If so, then one religion would easily come back.
It seems you're basing your decision that there is no god on the assumption that there is no god.
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Religions have always died out with their believers in the past, but yea if you believe in one specific religion then comhippy's argument is invalid.
If you believe in one specific religion you've got some head scratching to do about all the other religions.
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This link claims the bible recognises and uses the flatland concept in every description of God. Okay, why don't you find every single description of God in the bible and explain why they are analagous to flatland and not analagous to the bronze age ideas around at the time instead?
You also need to propose controls- is it possible to frame other religions as if they're recognising modern concepts? I could claim that hinduism embraces abiogenisis theory because it states life originated in the seas- which is currently supported as a likely idea by the scientific community. Obviously the Hindu books, written thousands of years ago in sanskrit, aren't referring to abiogenisis. Similarly the Qur'an claims that 'iron was sent down from the heavens', does this mean that they knew asteroid impacts brought material to earth? No, because the Qur'an also says 'the animals were sent down,'.
Modern physicists are aware that we live in 3 spacial and 1 time dimension, and understand that higher dimensions may influence our lives in some ways [it's proposed that gravitons are so small they can slip between rolled-up dimensions, which explains why gravity is such a weak force, because the force carrier isn't always present in our 3 dimensions- extra dimensions also pin up string and membrane theory]
However these physicists aren't jumping in the air and shouting 'it's god! It's god!', because the idea of extra dimensions neither necessitates or proves the existance of a God- no matter how many arguments of incomprehensibility or ignorance are invoked.
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There is no proof that God exists or not, but the question i keep asking myself is where did everything come from? It most certainly cannot be what my teacher told me ' germs developed' which sounds pretty weird, because where did the germs come from? It's a hard thought to think, how everything came to being, it certainly cannot be 'matter' or just a miracle. Im not one to study the bible in detail, but as far as the bible is concerned with 'me', i do believe God exists. Religious perspectives tell the story of development from a different view, but yet there is no proof for that...
So this thread goes on and on and on...
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What if we were the Gods... Controlling our own destiny...
No that's a stupid thought >.>
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We'd be living in mansions, having everything we want. But the purpose of life would be ruined, we'd have no goal in life.
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Everything came from germs developing? Your teacher is nuts
I know, my teacher was the biggest germ
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