View Poll Results: does god exist

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  • yes

    390 46.59%
  • maybe im not sure but i guess it could be real

    96 11.47%
  • no

    170 20.31%
  • no but if yes this god is a jerk

    75 8.96%
  • yes but i do wonder sometimes if its true

    106 12.66%

Thread: Does god exist?

  1. #11241
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    OK. I want all you atheists to post ten key reasons that, for you, is why it's impossible to have a God. Your top ten reasons of why God doesn't exists.
    :I
    There's a lot more than ten reasons in this thread so far.

    In any case I don't really have a 'top ten reason' list, I don't believe in God because there's no reason I should. There's no evidence that any particular god, gods or goddesses exist and there's nothing to suggest I would benefit in any way from choosing a religion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    But that's not God's way of life.
    You can do something uncontrollably and apologize. But if you do it clearly and willingly, in full thought and control of God, there will be a punishment. Unless, for whatever reason, you feel sorry afterwards and apologize. But God can't give you too many chances when it comes to that. Read about St. Augustine.
    But if you're not Christian and you feel sorry for (for example, lying) then you still go to hell. right. :|
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  3. #11242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerd View Post
    Because the bible doesn't make sense and can be scientifically disproven.
    Now I'll ask you to give me a few reasons why you think there is a god.
    Top TEN reasons. Can you also please explain HOW the Bible doesn't make sense? So what if it can be scientifically disproven? Maybe it just can't be scientifically proven. Scientists have proven Multiverses yet, and there's a good chance that they exist.

  4. #11243
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    But that's not God's way of life.
    You can do something uncontrollably and apologize. But if you do it clearly and willingly, in full thought and control of God, there will be a punishment. Unless, for whatever reason, you feel sorry afterwards and apologize. But God can't give you too many chances when it comes to that. Read about St. Augustine.
    What, so I could kill someone, feel sorry about it afterwards, and still get into heaven? That makes no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    Top TEN reasons. Can you also please explain HOW the Bible doesn't make sense? So what if it can be scientifically disproven? Maybe it just can't be scientifically proven. Scientists have proven Multiverses yet, and there's a good chance that they exist.
    Then what can you say to prove the bible is true?

  5. #11244
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    Quote Originally Posted by PooZy View Post
    :I
    There's a lot more than ten reasons in this thread so far.

    In any case I don't really have a 'top ten reason' list, I don't believe in God because there's no reason I should. There's no evidence that any particular god, gods or goddesses exist and there's nothing to suggest I would benefit in any way from choosing a religion.
    Your top TEN reasons. If you had any ten reasons that are essential to you not believing in God, post them.

  6. #11245
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    Your top TEN reasons. If you had any ten reasons that are essential to you not believing in God, post them.
    I already posted my reason, I DO NOT HAVE a list of my top ten reasons (unless i just make one up to please you, but i'm not really in the mood)
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  7. #11246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcatraz View Post
    What, so I could kill someone, feel sorry about it afterwards, and still get into heaven?
    Yes. But God can't give you too many chances when you do something bad willingly and in full mind of God.

  8. #11247
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    OK. I want all you atheists to post ten key reasons that, for you, is why it's impossible to have a God. Your top ten reasons of why God doesn't exists.
    1. He doesn't exist
    2. He doesn't exist
    3. He doesn't exist
    4. He doesn't exist
    5. He doesn't exist
    6. He doesn't exist
    7. He doesn't exist
    8. He doesn't exist
    9. He doesn't exist
    10. He doesn't exist

  9. #11248
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    Quote Originally Posted by PooZy View Post
    I already posted my reason, I DO NOT HAVE a list of my top ten reasons (unless i just make one up to please you, but i'm not really in the mood)
    Ah, so you can't tell me especially why you don't believe in God? OK.

  10. #11249
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    Yes. But God can't give you too many chances when you do something bad willingly and in full mind of God.
    As an atheist you're never in 'full mind of god' because you either don't know about religion or don't believe it
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  11. #11250
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    Ah, so you can't tell me especially why you don't believe in God? OK.
    I HAVE told you, read my original post.

    The reason I don't believe in God is because there's nothing to suggest he is real and is worth my worship. If I worshipped Yahweh, why not Zeus or Allah or any of the other countless gods that have nothing suggesting they could possibly exist?
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  13. #11251
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    Quote Originally Posted by PooZy View Post
    I HAVE told you, read my original post.

    The reason I don't believe in God is because there's nothing to suggest he is real and is worth my worship. If I worshipped Yahweh, why not Zeus or Allah or any of the other countless gods that have nothing suggesting they could possibly exist?
    If you were truly good and grateful for what you are/have got, you would believe in God. But you don't. I take pity on you for that.

  14. #11252
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    OK. I want all you atheists to post ten key reasons that, for you, is why it's impossible to have a God. Your top ten reasons of why God doesn't exists.
    It's going to be difficult to summarise an entire philosophical outlook into an arbitrary number of points, but I'll give it a go.

    1) Lack of supporting evidence. Otherwise dubbed 'faith'
    2) The God character is anthropomorphic, and thus probably an expression of human imagination.
    3) Logical descriptions of Gods are usually paradoxical.
    4) The existance and change over time of several human Religions, which betrays the ideas of absoluteness commonly shared amongst religions and spiritualists.
    5) 'God of the gaps'/ Arguments from ignorance, a significant portions of arguments for god assume god is a default position, when everyone is actually born an atheist [nobody is born believing in god], these arguments often also contort or misrepresent knowledge which implies the cause of the argument isn't true.
    6) Arguments of incomprehensibility, this ties with 1 and 5.
    7) I think Gods are born out of our human fear for death, this is why they're almost always guardians of the afterlife.
    8) The assumption that humans are important or central to the universe, which is proponed by many religions. Ties with 1,2,3 and contradicts arguments of 6 proponents.
    9) Gods die with their cultures, the roman gods died with the romans, the norse gods died with the old-norse, which demonstrates point 2.
    10) The solutions to the universe's greatest puzzles have all had natural solutions so far, not a single magic divine or supernatural solution, so I'm convinced even the most ultimate questions will have natural explanations.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    If you were truly good and grateful for what you are/have got, you would believe in God. But you don't. I take pity on you for that.
    If you were good and grateful for what you are and have you would thank, encourage and protect the other people in this world responsible for that, like the doctors who heal your wounds, the farmers who grow your food and the teachers who broaden your horizons.

    Those are the people who deserve admiration.
    Last edited by Rammjet; 4th May 2012 at 02:49 PM.

    Raar!

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  16. #11253
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    If you were truly good and grateful for what you are/have got, you would believe in God. But you don't. I take pity on you for that.
    Which god would I believe in?

    Seriously, I am grateful for what I have but I don't see why that means I have to believe in god. You're suggesting I CHOOSE not to believe in God because I am not grateful for what I have.

    Stop trying to label me as immoral :\
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  18. #11254
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    Quote Originally Posted by PooZy View Post
    :I
    There's a lot more than ten reasons in this thread so far.

    In any case I don't really have a 'top ten reason' list, I don't believe in God because there's no reason I should. There's no evidence that any particular god, gods or goddesses exist and there's nothing to suggest I would benefit in any way from choosing a religion.




    But if you're not Christian and you feel sorry for (for example, lying) then you still go to hell. right. :|
    Probably, but I would think some atheists go to Purgatory.
    All atheists feel sorry for something sometime in their life. But are you apologizing to God when you feel sorry (non-Christian)? No.

  19. #11255
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammjet View Post
    It's going to be difficult to summarise an entire philosophical outlook into an arbitrary number of points, but I'll give it a go.

    1) Lack of supporting evidence. Otherwise dubbed 'faith'
    2) The God character is anthropomorphic, and thus probably an expression of human imagination.
    3) Logical descriptions of Gods are usually paradoxical.
    4) The existance and change over time of several human Religions, which betrays the ideas of absoluteness commonly shared amongst religions and spiritualists.
    5) 'God of the gaps'/ Arguments from ignorance, a significant portions of arguments for god assume god is a default position, when everyone is actually born an atheist [nobody is born believing in god], these arguments often also contort or misrepresent knowledge which implies the cause of the argument isn't true.
    6) Arguments of incomprehensibility, this ties with 1 and 6.
    7) I think Gods are born out of our human fear for death, this is why they're almost always guardians of the afterlife.
    8) The assumption that humans are important or central to the universe, which is proponed by many religions. Ties with 1,2,3 and contradicts arguments of 6 proponents.
    9) Gods die with their cultures, the roman gods died with the romans, the norse gods died with the old-norse, which demonstrates point 2.
    10) The solutions to the universe's greatest puzzles have all had natural solutions so far, not a single magic divine or supernatural solution, so I'm convinced even the most ultimate questions will have natural explanations.
    It ties with itself? :p

  20. #11256
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    Your top TEN reasons. If you had any ten reasons that are essential to you not believing in God, post them.
    1. As PooZy said, religion doesn't benefit anyone.
    2. No proof of the bible being true.
    3. Bible can be disproved by science
    4. Humans come from a common ancestor so Adam and eve is false.
    5. No one has ever see heaven or hell, for that matter there's nothing to even prove its existence.
    6. There are a ton of other religions so they obviously can't all be true.

    I have to go, I'll be back in 2 hours because I have class.
    Hopefully 6 is good enough for you.

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  22. #11257
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    Quote Originally Posted by PooZy View Post
    Which god would I believe in?

    Seriously, I am grateful for what I have but I don't see why that means I have to believe in god. You're suggesting I CHOOSE not to believe in God because I am not grateful for what I have.

    Stop trying to label me as immoral :\
    God, with a capital "G".
    I'm not trying to label you as immoral. I just take pity on you that you don't believe in God.

  23. #11258
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    If you were truly good and grateful for what you are/have got, you would believe in God. But you don't. I take pity on you for that.
    I really wonder, if some jerks make fake names, and then posts stupid stuff just to annoy people.

    Neither Bug or Karma had any posts, before they started arguing about religious stuff.

  24. #11259
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    Probably, but I would think some atheists go to Purgatory.
    All atheists feel sorry for something sometime in their life. But are you apologizing to God when you feel sorry (non-Christian)? No.
    I apologise to the person I wronged.
    That is the RIGHT thing to do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    God, with a capital "G".
    I'm not trying to label you as immoral. I just take pity on you that you don't believe in God.
    god god god :3
    Yahweh is the name of your god, so I'll capitalise that
    also you are trying to label me as immoral, claiming that i am not grateful and don't feel sorry for doing bad things etc etc
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  26. #11260
    Quote Originally Posted by Bug View Post
    God, with a capital "G".
    I'm not trying to label you as immoral. I just take pity on you that you don't believe in God.
    In that case it's lowercase, as it's not referring to a specific one.